The interviewer was Janice McGilchrist of ABC Local Radio, Orange, New South Wales, Australia. The station was ABC Western Plains. ABC is the public broadcaster in Australia. -- The segment introduction, "bending over backwards and moving mountains", was their idea. The introduction, technology access, was a bit of a misunderstanding, and I didn't get to explain that it is an education project. "only works if another laptop is nearby" ... was a simplification for the purpose of the topic. The laptops will use a wireless access point. I don't live in a cow dung hut, but sometimes I remember I could be. My list of trial countries is probably wrong. I couldn't find a full list in time. My idea of colours being culturally significant ... was for illustration, and I think I heard it from someone else.