Opened 8 years ago

Closed 7 years ago

Last modified 7 years ago

#2688 closed defect (wontfix)

ffmpeg can and should be included

Reported by: AlbertCahalan Owned by: dgilmore
Priority: high Milestone: 8.2.0 (was Update.2)
Component: distro Version:
Keywords: Cc: dwmw2
Blocked By: Blocking:
Deployments affected: Action Needed:
Verified: no


ffmpeg is not purely patent encumbered. It includes dozens of useful unpatented codecs such as snow and mjpeg.

As Debian also takes a strict stand against patented codecs, it is probably best to use the same source code. (take advantage of work already done)

It appears to me that the patented stuff was actually ripped out of the tarball rather than merely disabled. The web page provides contact info that may be useful if you need to ask questions.

Change History (8)

comment:1 Changed 8 years ago by jg

  • Milestone changed from Untriaged to Trial-3
  • Owner changed from jg to J5
  • Priority changed from normal to high

Albert has a good point...

comment:2 Changed 8 years ago by J5

Will package it up tomorrow. This will have to block on Fedora legal for due diligence but if it is indeed free of patented codecs then Fedora would be happy to accept the package and we can then get it in.

comment:3 Changed 8 years ago by J5

  • Milestone changed from Trial-3 to First Deployment, V1.0

comment:4 Changed 8 years ago by jg

  • Owner changed from J5 to dgilmore

Dennis, any information about the upstream state of ffmpeg? Did J5 do the packaging?

comment:5 Changed 8 years ago by dwmw2

[14:03] <dwmw2_BOS> was there ever a move to put the unpatented parts of ffmpeg into Fedora?
[14:03] <dwmw2_BOS>
[14:04] <Rathann> dwmw2_BOS: I don't support this
[14:04] <Rathann> because ffmpeg does not have a codec plugin system, we'd end up having to replace fedora's package
[14:05] <Rathann> and ffmpeg developers would get many questions like "mpeg/mp3 playback doesn't work on fedora"
[14:05] <Rathann> and I'd be the one they'd hang first
[14:06] <Rathann> besides, what debian is including cannot be included in fedora
[14:06] <Rathann> debian is less strict on patents
[14:06] <Rathann> i.e. they include mp3 decoders

comment:6 Changed 8 years ago by dwmw2

  • Cc dwmw2 added

comment:7 Changed 7 years ago by dgilmore

  • Resolution set to wontfix
  • Status changed from new to closed

We can not legally include ffmpeg without stripping out more of it than debian does, They choose to ignore some patents. to get it to a state we could ship it would make it useless. so it can not and will not happen.

comment:8 Changed 7 years ago by dwmw2

Ideally, we'd fix ffmpeg to have a codec plugin system. Although this is already solved for gstreamer and xine (you can just add the extra plugins from another source). Do we really need a _third_ system and associated set of codecs?

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